Thailand 2014 / 2015

overland thailand


Route

  • Days: 39 days (overland by car) + 32 days on Phuket while car is shipped
  • Period: 16 November to 24 January 
  • Weather:  Around 25 degrees. Up north around Chiang Rai it was cooler. We arrived in Thailand at the end of the wet season and humidity was dropping fast. Except for some hot days in Bangkok, weather got very comfortable. On Phuket weather was nice and warm. On some days it rained at the end of the afternoon, but the showers were short. Most days were sunny in the morning and a bit overcast in the afternoon.

 


General information:

  • Currency: Thai Baht (THB)

  • Internet: Available in most bars, hotels and restaurants. Also most the amazon coffee shops near the huge gas stations have wi-fi

  • ATM's: ATM's for visa available everywhere

  • Creditcards: Are accepted widely at shops, supermarkets, hotels, restaurants and gas stations.

  • Safety: In general Thailand is a safe country. We bushcamped several times and never had any problems. While driving through the country there are many police check points but they never stopped us for a check. They are more interested in the illegal citizens or the refugees which are not allowed to travel. Earlier in 2014, the year we visited Thailand, there was some unrest followed by a coup we never noticed anything. Tourist are very welcome and treated with al lot of respect. Concerning safety the only place you have to be careful are a few areas in the south near the Malaysian border where there are muslim activists active. We also traveled along the Myanmar border but that area was safe. Just be careful when taking pictures of the refugee camps. Officially this is not allowed. 

 


Prices (per January 2015)

  • Value Money: €1 = 39,50 Baht 

  • Fuel: diesel is 27 Baht (about € 0,68 per liter)

  • Camping: There are almost no campsites. We bushcamped several times which was for free but also camped on the parking of lodges where we paid a small amount for parking, toilet, shower and wi-fi (price between 100 to 140 Baht). In some places as well as in Bangkok city we slept in a hotel (price between 400 and 800 Baht). On phuket we rented a condo for 15000 Baht for one month. Many nights however we slept for free when visiting friends. When you go further south along the beaches finding good bushcamp spots becomes easier.

  • Prices: groceries are quite expensive in Thailand. Many products are more expensive than in Europe.  

  • Bread: A good whole grain bread can be bought at Tops (you can find them at the Central shopping centers) costs around 80 Baht.  

  • Renting a scooter: When you want to rent a scooter you should bargain. Best place is near the beach in Patong. We managed to rent a 135cc scooter for 4500 Baht for 24 days. We did not give them our passport. Just a copy and a refundable deposit of 3000 Baht which we got back when we returned the scooter. We had no insurance on the scooter. We were told this was not possible.
  • Renting an appartment: Although high season is more expansive you should be able to rent a house or condo for max. 15000 Baht a month. Touristic places are more expensive than others. There are many websites to rent a house. We found ours at www.airbnb.com. At Phuket we stayed near Kathu, opposite Tesco Lotus. For us this location was very convenient location. If you rent a house make sure you are well informed about extra costs like cleaning, wifi, cable tv, electricity and water. Are they included in the rental price or not? Another good thing to check is your deposit and how it will be returned to you.

 


Visa

  • On arrival at an airport most nationalities get a 30 day single entry visa free of charge. On Arrival at land borders you only get a 15 day single entry visa. Visa are available at most land borders. As 15 days is most likely to be too short for overland traveling you can also get a tourist visa in advance. Tourist visa which you get in advance is automatically a single entry visa for 60 days starting from date of entry. The visa itself is vaiid for 3 months. Before the end of the 3 months you must have entered the country. 

  • The 30 days visa which are issued at airports or the 15 days visa which are issued at land border are free. The 60 days, single entry visa, are issued at embassies and consulates outside Thailand. The price for this visa is 1010 THB per person (1000 THB for the visa and 10 THB bankcosts). Fee must be paid cash in Thai Baht.

  • The 60 day visa we got was obtained at the Thai consulate in Vientiane in Laos. This seemed to be the easiest consulate to get this visa but we doubt is. This consulate is used a lot by visa runners from Thailand and extremely crowded. There are at least around 500 people every day and the que starts very early in the morning. When applying here you need patience. We queued up around 8 o'clock and got in just before noon. Do not bother about the visa hustlers outside the embassy. They will tell you that you need them but that is not true. Application is easy. 1. First you stand in line to get in the embassy. 2. Once inside get your application form. 3. At the end of the line you get a number that is also written on your application form (would be best if you have completed your form by that time) You can do it while standing in line. 4. Sit and wait for your number to be called off. 5. Go to the window do your application (application form, two pictures, copy of your passport, copy of your Lao visa, copy of your Lao entry stamp). 6. If OK, you get a note with the amount you have to pay and your number on it. With this note you go to the bank (building nextdoor) and pay your visa in cash. 7. Come back next day to pick up your visa. The embassy is very strickt concerning the photos. Even though we had one they were rejected for some stupid reason. This is not a problem because on the top floor of the embassy they can make you new ones. Price 80 Baht per person. This is probably just a way to make some extra money.
  • Thai consulate in Vientiane is open from Monday to Friday from 8:30 to 11:30 (for application) and from 13:30 to 15:30 (for pickup).
  • Visa extension: All visa can be exteded for another 30 days. In combination with a 60 days visa, this makes a stay of maximum 90 days possible. Visa extensions can be arranged at immigration offices. We did our extension in Chiang Mai. Price is 1900 Baht per person. For your application you have to fill in a form and you need 1 photo, copy of your Thai visa, copy of your entry stamp, copy of your immigration card and copy of your passport. Extensions are done immediately. You can wait for it.

 


Border crossing

  • Entry: We entered near Surin (coming from Cambodia). Entry was easy. They measured our temperature here because of Ebola. On entry you have to fill in the usual immigration card. The departure part of this card is attached to your passport on entry. This part is very important. Do not loose it. You need it to extend your visa, to extend the custom declaration for the car or with other offical matters.

  • Exit: We left through Phuket International airport. No costs.    

  • Insurance: We did not had any insurance and it was no problem; it was never checked. We tried to get one at several borders or insurance agencies but it did not seem to be possible to insure a foreign registered vehicle
  • Customs Declaration Car: On entry you get a Simplified Customs Declaration Form. Despite the number of days on your visa this form is only valid for 30 days. You must extend it before it expires. On leaving the country you need this form. Also when shipping they ask for it. If it is expired you can get a big fine. Thailand will stamp your Carnet if you ask for it, but to the Thai customs this has no value. They only want the SCD.

 


Roads

  • All roads we drove were sealed and general in good condition.  

 


Fees for Toll roads, briges, tunnels and ferries

  • The only toll we paid was on the main highways around Bangkok. 

 


Highlights or not


Note: as we already travelled through Thailand on an organised trip many years ago we did not visit the major highlights again. Although many definitely should be listed here, the will be missing in the list below.


  • Elephant village near Surin: Entry = free of charge. In this village locals and elephants live together. Elephants are on a chain unfortunately.

  • Kanchanaburi Railway museum: Entry fee = 120 Baht per person. Interesting museum about the history of the railway and the war. Allied graveyard opposite the road.
  • Kanchanaburi Bridge over the River Kwai: Entry is  free. You can walk on the bridge.
  • Hell Fire pass: Entry is free. Good museum and you can walk to the pass. While walking along the railway you can listen to an audio tour. Listing to the stories while being at the place where it happened is impressive. We really liked this trip.  
  • Chiang Rai, Wat Rong Khun (White temple): Entry is free. Amazing temple which cannot be compared to any other. 
  • Chiang Mai, Orchid and butterfly farm: Entry = 40 Baht per person. Touristic but fun anc cheap place to visit. We liked it.
  • Chiang Mai, Longneck village: Entry = 500 Baht per person. This is very expensive. We did not visit the place. All looked very artificial. 
  • Phuket, old town: Entry is free. Nice small streets with colorful Chinese and Portugese style houses. Nice atmosphere.
  • Phuket, Big Buddha: Entry is free. Fun to see the buddhist who pray here with a rope aroud their head. 
  • Gibbon rehabilitation Center and Bang Pae Waterfall: Entry NP = 200 Baht per person. Entry for Gibbon rehabilitation center is free. In the center volunteers tell you a lot about the gibbons. The story was nice. As most gibbons are prepared for returning to the wild most are kept from human contact. But there are some you can visit and you can definitely hear them. The center relies completely on donations so visiting them and making a donation will help them a lot.
  • Phi Phi island tour: Price 1500 Baht per person, for a whole day. You visit several islands, will go snorkling, transfer from hotel, snorkling gear, lunch and free drinks included. Tour is by speedboat. Do not expect a Robinson Crusoe experience. You will be with thousands of other tourists. Still it was fun.
  • Snorkling on Phuket: For us the best beach for snorkling was Laem Sing beach. coming from Patong this is on the way to Surin shortly after Kamala Beach. Just a few meters out in the sea there are many bolders with fish. The sea is quite calm on this side of the island, there is a toilet and fresh water to get the salt of. 
  • Sea Gypsy village on Si-ray Island near Phuket: Free, not very special, but a nice day trip by scooter. Watch out for the monkeys near the bridge to the island. 

 

Shipping

 

At the end of our Asia overland trip we shipped our car from Bangkok (Laem Chabang port) to Cape Town (South Africa). In Bangkok we worked with a very good agent who organised this shipment. All bookings and documents everything was organised by the agent.

 

In short this is how it worked:

  • Booking was done by agent and all documents for this were provided by us by mail.

  • Day before shipment we went to the agent's office and signed documents as well as a power of attorney that gave agent right to do deal with customs on our behalf.
  • On the day of shipping agent went with us to the port and organised everything. This took the whole day. Customs, container pickup, lashing, x-ray container, delivery to depot. We were there with him and followed the container all the way. Agent handled everything very profesionally. In Bangkok cars are listed as hazardous goods, which means extra handling and trucking as loading has to be done at a special location. The Simplified Custom Declaration form you got on entry is needed here. Make sure it is not expired.

  • After shipment BL and proof of insurance (insurance only possible after issue of BL) was send to us by mail by agent.

  • Payment of shipment was done by banktransfer to the agent. They send us an invoice. 

All in all our agent did it all and everything went very smooth. The name of agent is:

Nisarat Khongphetsak Schmidt
KPS International Trade (Thailand) Co.,Ltd.
Tel : (+66)02-8327025
Fax : (+66)02-8327026
Mobile (TH) :(+66)086-5752995
Mobile (AU) :(+61)04-35336560
LINE ID : kps-nisarat
Skype ID : nisarat_nvt

Email : nisarat@kpsthailand.com

Website : www.kpsthailand.com
Website : www.kpsintertrade.com 

 

The shipping company that shipped our container is Evergreen.

 

The costs of this shipment was:

Oceanfreight (Container) = 1650 USD

DG (Dangerous Goods) Surcharge = 250 USD

THC (Terminal Handling Charges): 2600 THB

Seal fee: 200 THB

Bill of Loading: 1200 THB
Surrendered fee: 1200 THB

Customs Formality: 2500 THB

Shipping Charge: 2000 THB

Handling fee: 1500 THB

DG (Dangerous goods) Terminal Handling Charge: 3500 THB

Trucking Fee: 5800 THB (expensive as loading had to be done on special location)
Loading equipment/lashing fee: 5500 THB

Customs Export Register: 1500 THB

Gate Entry: 580 THB

Customs Surcharge: 200 THB

 

The total of all costs paid in Bangkok (including VAT) is: 96318 THB (Euro 2450) ZAR 

On the South African side: Clearing on the South African side was done by our agent Bushactive. Service and speed were the best and price was very reasonable.

For details and costs see: country information South Africa.

 

 

GPS-waypoints

Grid: Lat/Lon hddd°mm.mmm"



TH-BAKERY - N11°12.609 E99°30.462
Bakery with good bread

TH-BEGRAAF - N14°01.932 E99°31.500
Kanchanaburi, Railway museum and Allied graveyard

TH-CAMP01 - N14°52.895 E103°30.452
Surin, The Orchid Inn. Good hotelroom, good secure parking, wifi in the room, airco. Price 440 THB per night per room

TH-CAMP03 - N16°49.576 E100°15.161
Hotel in Phitsanulok, basic hotel with airco, wifi in the room and car park. 390 THB per room per night.

TH-CAMP04 - N18°17.413 E99°29.673
Camping on parking at Tonnam Guesthouse in Lampang. Very nice lady. Paid 100 Baht for shower (incl. Towel) and toilet.

TH-CAMP05 - N18°45.815 E98°59.922
Camping on the parking at Trekker Camp in Chiang Mai. Price 140 THB for toilet, shower and breakfast for 2 people per day. When you park close to the guesthouse you have wifi in the car.

TH-CAMP06 - N18°09.687 E97°55.766
Above the Sea Guesthouse in Mae Sariang. New hotel, very hard beds, wifi and airco in the room, limited parking space. Price is 450 THB per room per night including breakfast.

TH-CAMP07 - N17°01.865 E99°42.027
Bushcamp near old temple in ancient Sukhotai. Nice spot but no facilities

TH-CAMP08 - N15°41.865 E100°07.712
Pa Place hotel. Huge hotels with many rooms. Basic but clean with airco and wifi in the room. Price 450 THB per room per night.

TH-CAMP09 - N13°45.451 E100°31.148
Guestroom at Bangkok Adventist Hospital.

TH-CAMP10 - N13°43.282 E100°35.368
Aravinda House in Bangkok. Very nice place, secure parking, airco, fridge and wifi in the room. Within walking distance of BTS Ekamai station. Very good price. 675 THB per room per night (for 3 nights or more)

TH-CAMP11  - N14°21.196 E98°55.756
Camping at parking of Hintok River camp at Hell Fire pass. Beautiful lodge, with natural pool, terrace at the river, candle lit dining. Great place.Wifi in the restaurant. Price 100 THB for parking and shower (including towels) per day.

TH-CAMP12 - N12°02.439 E99°54.438
Bushcamp near a restaurant at the sea in Kui Buri. We could use the toilet, shower and wifi for free. Not the best beach but we really liked it here. Nice people. Very quiet.

TH-CAMP13 - N11°43.246 E99°45.697
Bushcamp at the sea near Science park south of Prachuap. Public toilet and shower opposite the road. Place is secure. Gate closes at night. Very quiet.

TH-CAMP14 - N11°20.943 E99°33.974
Bushcamp near the sea next to the street in Ban Krut. Public toilet nearby

TH-CAMP15 - N14°01.809 E100°40.192
Bushcamp on the soccerfield in front of KPS office. Can use toilet and shower in the house.

TH-CUSTOMH - N11°49.990 E99°48.515
Customs in Prachuap. Extension of Simplified Customs Declaration Form here. No costs as long as you are on time

TH-ETHNIC - N18°55.494 E98°55.791
Long Neck market. Entry is very expensive and extremely touristic

TH-HARING - N12°27.493 E99°57.836
"Vis van Pim" Dutchman that sell real Dutch haring (Dutch fish specialty)

TH-HELLFIR - N14°21.181 E98°57.293
Hell Fire Pass

TH-IMMIGRA - N18°46.290 E98°58.271
Immigration in Chiang Mai. For visa extensions.

TH-CAMP16 - N13°57.281 E100°35.830
Hotel Kacha Resort. Simple cheap hotel close to Don Mueang airport. Price 500 THB per night for room with airco and wifi. Taxi to airport is 120 THB (20 minutes)

TH-KHAOSAN - N13°45.501 E100°29.917
Khao San Road

TH-KPS - N14°01.809 E100°40.192
KPS International trade, Shipping Agent.

TH-KWAI - N14°02.546 E99°30.324
Kanchanaburi, Bridge over the River Kwai

TH-LAUNDRY - N14°01.853 E100°40.130
Laundry in Bangkok, near shipping agent

TH-MAELA - N17°07.863 E98°22.868
Mae La, refugee camp

TH-MALL - N13°59.464 E100°37.032
Future shopping mall

TH-MALL1 -  N16°26.062 E102°49.587
Central Plaza shopping Mall

TH-MALL2 - N18°46.108 E98°58.421
Central Plaza shopping Mall

TH-OLIFANT - N15°15.927 E103°29.820
Elephant village

TH-ORCHID - N18°55.131 E98°56.051
Orchid and Butterfly farm

TH-PIZZA - N11°09.830 E99°29.059
Restaurant, good pizza

TH-PORT - N13°04.538 E100°54.566
Leam Chabang, container port

TH-REST - N18°46.318 E98°58.803
Vegetarian restaurant in Chiang Mai. All you can eat. Great buffet.

TH-SDA - N18°47.770 E98°58.992
SDA church in Chiang Mai

TH-SDA2 - N13°45.415 E100°31.127
SDA church in Bangkok

TH-TEMPLE - N17°58.547 E100°00.863
Nice temple somewhere on the way. Big lying buddha

TH-WHITETE - N19°49.472 E99°45.817
Wat Rong Kuhn. White temple in Chiang Rai. The most amazing temple you have seen. Great.